On Board Shower Stuff

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
Maybe with one of these...

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Low Pressure Brazed Plate Heat Exchanger, BP410-40LP

Smaller, lighter, stronger, more efficent; Bell & Gossett Brazed Plate Heat Exchangers are ideal for residential and light commercial hydronic systems because they provide maximum heat dissipation. Unlike conventional shell and tube heat exchangers, our units can be used even in applications where space is at a premium. Their efficient design allows them to provide more heat transfer using less space, making them well suited to a variety of installations, including: domestic hot water, pool heating, radiant floors and snow melt. The unit's stainless steel plates are vacuum-brazed together to form a durable, integral piece that can withstand high pressure and temperature. 3/4" NPT Connection Type. 3-1/16"W x 4-9/16"D x 8-1/4"H.
 

Mauzer

Pitter Patter. Lets Get at Er
I am thinking of doing something similar, but instead of adding the heat exchanger I'm going to add and external transmission cooler and then run quick disco hoses to my internal tranny cooler (located at bottom of radiator) and run one side to a sump and the other to a camp shower. That makes sense right?
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
I am thinking of doing something similar, but instead of adding the heat exchanger I'm going to add and external transmission cooler and then run quick disco hoses to my internal tranny cooler (located at bottom of radiator) and run one side to a sump and the other to a camp shower. That makes sense right?

I don't follow you.
 

AlienXtx

Nignog
using his tranny to heat the water....I think
 

Mauzer

Pitter Patter. Lets Get at Er
I don't follow you.

Ha, ok so the 4Runner has and internal transmission cooler built in to the bottom of the stock radiator; my plan is to install an external transmission cooler (the internal cooler is infamous for failing and mixing with coolant) to cool my transmission fluid. Then, use the stock internal cooler to heat the water by running a hose to a sump pump and connecting the hose to one side of the cooler and the other side running a hose to the camp shower. The sump will pull the water from the water source up through the transmission cooler (heating the water as the engine will be on) and then out the other end through the hose to the shower.
 

AlienXtx

Nignog
Ha, ok so the 4Runner has and internal transmission cooler built in to the bottom of the stock radiator; my plan is to install an external transmission cooler (the internal cooler is infamous for failing and mixing with coolant) to cool my transmission fluid. Then, use the stock internal cooler to heat the water by running a hose to a sump pump and connecting the hose to one side of the cooler and the other side running a hose to the camp shower. The sump will pull the water from the water source up through the transmission cooler (heating the water as the engine will be on) and then out the other end through the hose to the shower.

what if it develpes that famous leak?
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
Ha, ok so the 4Runner has and internal transmission cooler built in to the bottom of the stock radiator; my plan is to install an external transmission cooler (the internal cooler is infamous for failing and mixing with coolant) to cool my transmission fluid. Then, use the stock internal cooler to heat the water by running a hose to a sump pump and connecting the hose to one side of the cooler and the other side running a hose to the camp shower. The sump will pull the water from the water source up through the transmission cooler (heating the water as the engine will be on) and then out the other end through the hose to the shower.

Sounds like a good idea. Especially for the price... The only concerns that I would have is volume of flow that can fit through and, if you think it will fail with glycol/trans fluid, I would think glycol/hard creek or tap water would accelerate the corrosion. That was the reason I kinda like these SS plate units.
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
what if it develpes that famous leak?

Well at least you won't hose the tranny and if it's cold out, you won't 'freeze'!!! :)
 

Mauzer

Pitter Patter. Lets Get at Er
I got the idea from a guy on expo portal who was running this setup, I'll have to go back and see if he's had any corrosion or failure issues
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
I got the idea from a guy on expo portal who was running this setup, I'll have to go back and see if he's had any corrosion or failure issues

Cool!
 

Silverback

Lima Gulf Bravo Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
The only thing I don't like about these solutions is that you have to have your vehicle running (for a while) to get hot water. Overland Journal had a fantastic article about an on board hot water setup, and its very similar to the ones you guys are talking about. I'll see if I can dig it up. But for me, I think a Zodi or something like this http://www.campingshowerworld.com/eccotemp-l5-portable-propane-tankless-water-heater.html might be better suited.

Food for thought, since the Taco doens't have a spare tire under it any more, that would be a great location for a water tank. I could get one to fit between the frame rails and then add a nice skid below it to prevent it from puncture. Figure you could add a filler neck to one of the cubbies in the rear of the bed, gravity or 12v pump feed to ... where ever you like.
 

drew02a

Moderator
Staff member
The only thing I don't like about these solutions is that you have to have your vehicle running (for a while) to get hot water. Overland Journal had a fantastic article about an on board hot water setup, and its very similar to the ones you guys are talking about. I'll see if I can dig it up. But for me, I think a Zodi or something like this http://www.campingshowerworld.com/eccotemp-l5-portable-propane-tankless-water-heater.html might be better suited.

Food for thought, since the Taco doens't have a spare tire under it any more, that would be a great location for a water tank. I could get one to fit between the frame rails and then add a nice skid below it to prevent it from puncture. Figure you could add a filler neck to one of the cubbies in the rear of the bed, gravity or 12v pump feed to ... where ever you like.

Sounds like a very familiar concept, lol.

If you use PVC or something that can take 5psi of pressure, You could have normal water pressure by hooking it up to your OBA with a pressure switch. I think that kind of setup would be way better than using a 12V pump becouse you could use normal plumbing fixtures.
 

Silverback

Lima Gulf Bravo Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
Sorry Drew, did you already mention the spare tire water tank location? I'm on cold meds and missed it.

The use of OBA to pressurize your water supply would be great, crank it up to 100 PSI and pressure wash the dirt off the rigs even.
 

AlienXtx

Nignog
Sorry Drew, did you already mention the spare tire water tank location? I'm on cold meds and missed it.

The use of OBA to pressurize your water supply would be great, crank it up to 100 PSI and pressure wash the dirt off the rigs even.

you could also blast hippys!....lol
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
The only thing I don't like about these solutions is that you have to have your vehicle running (for a while) to get hot water. Overland Journal had a fantastic article about an on board hot water setup, and its very similar to the ones you guys are talking about. I'll see if I can dig it up. But for me, I think a Zodi or something like this http://www.campingshowerworld.com/eccotemp-l5-portable-propane-tankless-water-heater.html might be better suited.

Food for thought, since the Taco doens't have a spare tire under it any more, that would be a great location for a water tank. I could get one to fit between the frame rails and then add a nice skid below it to prevent it from puncture. Figure you could add a filler neck to one of the cubbies in the rear of the bed, gravity or 12v pump feed to ... where ever you like.

Test Vehicle ID'd
I should have test results in a month or so. :)

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Had to through a Fenix TK 10 so that I will have stocking stuffers. :)
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