Tinfoil Hat Wearers Unite

[Oswego]

This isn't going to end well.

"Either you're with us or we kill you" - seems to be a typical theme and it reminds me of similar events in history perpetrated by other religions.

Sucks that we have to deal with it in our time/day, but in the history of man it's far from anything new IMO.

 

[Taco Loco]

"Either you're with us or we kill you" - seems to be a typical theme and it reminds me of similar events in history perpetrated by other religions.

Sucks that we have to deal with it in our time/day, but in the history of man it's far from anything new IMO.

The OSU mooslum today is another fine example.

 

[Silverback]

Yep.. Dear Leader says they are a nice people though. Dear Leader would not lie to us would he?

 

[Silverback]

Why do you care? The last 8 years under your boy has pretty much pulled God from anything we do in this country. As for God in schools, I really don't care. But no religion means NO religion.

 

[Silverback]

Yeah, I also don't believe in a man in the clouds who won't let a baby into "Heaven" because he didn't have some special water dripped on his head. I'm with you on separation of church and state. As for the creationist, as long as he keeps his views out of it I see no problem. Same thing we say when we allow a Muslim to be a judge. Tomato Tomato'

 

[Silverback]

No more than Dear Leader pushing his beliefs that all Muslims are good loving people. We see how that gets us. But we shall see. I personally would like some stronger borders... gotta keep those crazy Canuks out.

 

[Oswego]

Oh yeah! Of course. I could give two shits about what the guy believes, as long as he keeps it out of his decision making. I'm not knocking him for his beliefs at all. I just worry about the tendency of individuals with power to push their beliefs. We shall see!

That's always a double edged sword and both sides secretly or openly push their agenda regardless of what they say. That's partly why I want the electoral college gone. My vote should count and having everyone's votes count should help s get away from this crazy 2 party system that I believe is polarizing the nation.

I prefer to live in a country that has separation of church and state because I don't believe + you know..... I'd rather not repeat history with ethnic or religious cleansing that religions seem to be so fond of.

 

[Taco Loco]

Spend 5min reading this, Heritage has known to be very accurate.


Did America Have a Christian Founding?

It's a good read.

 

[Taco Loco]

On side note...

I think it's funny/weird when someone finds themselves in Jail and now they are a true believer.

Also, I can't even count how many times I have experienced this....it's amazing those who say that don't believe in God, I often hear them later in life faced with tragic situations ( death in a family, very ill relative, bad car wreck of their child, spouse, parent or best friend) and maybe I'm talking to you directly.
I read or hear about you and I remember you asking for prayers and I also know that you begin to pray internally only when the situations arise, maybe your just a fucking hypocrite ! No matter what, I will always pray for your dumbass or the situation, I have a strong faith, and proud of it.

 

[Oswego]

When people are faced with weakness they cling to anything that they believe will make themselves feel better and sometimes thats one of the many gods people worship. It's a simple reactionary genetic trait that dates back to the beginning of the evolution of man IMO (Sun God/etc.). IMO no humans believed in Jesus or Muhammad 1.2 million years ago....they are just some of the popular gods in current history.

Being a believer of one religion or another makes no man better than a non believer who changes his mind at the last minute of life or so the religious texts I have studied taught me.

I say I pray for others and I do. I don't think it does anything, but they do and I do it for them so maybe it works for them?.?

 

[Oswego]

Spend 5min reading this, Heritage has known to be very accurate.
Did America Have a Christian Founding?
It's a good read.

I read it. Makes sense from their perspective.

IMO "America" was founded by murderous white property owners who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of the countries natural inhabitants for their own perceived good.

If the native Americans and slaves were considered citizens with rights that allowed to help have a say in the writing of the constitution it would be a different story, but alas they were looked at as property and now we are where we are.

 

[Taco Loco]

I read it. Makes sense from their perspective.

IMO "America" was founded by murderous white property owners who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of the countries natural inhabitants for their own perceived good.

If the native Americans and slaves were considered citizens with rights that allowed to help have a say in the writing of the constitution it would be a different story, but alas they were looked at as property and now we are where we are.

Agree.

say this in John Wayne's voice, "Never Apologize, shows a sign of weakness" and followed by this short vid

 

[TacoXpo]

On side note...

I think it's funny/weird when someone finds themselves in Jail and now they are a true believer.

Also, I can't even count how many times I have experienced this....it's amazing those who say that don't believe in God, I often hear them later in life faced with tragic situations ( death in a family, very ill relative, bad car wreck of their child, spouse, parent or best friend) and maybe I'm talking to you directly.
I read or hear about you and I remember you asking for prayers and I also know that you begin to pray internally only when the situations arise, maybe your just a fucking hypocrite ! No matter what, I will always pray for your dumbass or the situation, I have a strong faith, and proud of it.

Amen brother. ...and I will try to limit my input.

And regardless of people's belief:

I have spent a good number of years (about 25) working with homeless organizations. Darn near all faith based folks helping those that typically don't believe in their faith. The faith based organizations take it to heart that We are to care for the poor.

They do that at no cost to the tax payer. Then take a look how 'lawmakers' like to outlaw such things. The US government and Liberals don't like competition. My friend that works in LA with the Health Department throws more money away than any church or Faith Based Homeless organization would ever would - and Faith Based organizations are only using their own money. Money that was given to their church because it makes them feel good and it is what their religions believe. Many send their money to the gods and religious leaders at Apple, ARB, BFG, Democratic National Committee, Black Lives Matter, etc.

For those of you that don't believe in religion, I challenge you. If I followed you from day-to-day I would be able to describe your religion.

And for those that say the bibles' story's are not true or based upon reality. Describe an accident to me and I will pick out your flaws when I review it on video tape. I would ask you to tell me the basic 10 tenants to the way you live your life.

I wish the crash did not erase the 10 Commandments interpretation I did years ago.

 

[TacoXpo]

IMO "America" was founded by murderous white property owners who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of the countries natural inhabitants for their own perceived good.

If the native Americans and slaves were considered citizens with rights that allowed to help have a say in the writing of the constitution it would be a different story, but alas they were looked at as property and now we are where we are.

So why don't you blame the countries that forced a particular religion or would persecute its people for practicing their religion. Are they not to blame either? Life is not fair. I know that from the last 8 years! or as it is said in the beginning of the book, "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" - "Life is Hard."

 

[TacoXpo]

Shit happens. You talk about the American Natives from a perspective of the 21st century. Go back 400 years and the rules were very different. Here is one more example of the way things used to be. Now we take the weakest link and try to create a society that supports that weak link and we all have to live by pansy rules.

The funny/sad part is the guy watching does nothing to stop it. It may have some indication of the value of life in that 'hood.

 

[Mauzer]

I'm a proud Catholic, converted when I was 25. I know my creator, and I don't believe in him because its convenient or because I'm uneducated (I double majored in Finance and Accounting). There is no unequivocal scientific proof that our earth wasn't divinely created, and I believe that for everything to be so perfectly formed that it didn't occur by happenstance. I don't look down on people who don't believe, my faith gives me joy. I understand that there are a lot of imperfect Christians, we are all fallible. The fact is we were founded on Judaeo Christian beliefs and I find it ironic @Oswego that your signature says "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts" and you accept the revisionist history being dished out these days.

It was a law common among Indians that the stronger of two tribes or people (nations) has the right to conquer and subdue the weaker. Under Indian common law it was understood that land claims existed by inhabiting the land and by any use of the land. When any land was unoccupied or not used for one year, the land was free for anyone to claim and settle. Native Americans were not helpless either, they attacked settlers, murdering and killing woman and children. And if you read more into the inception of our nation you would know that, just like today, people were divided on the "Indian" issue. Some supported their claim and some thought they were savages. Look into president Andrew Jackson's Indian Removal Act and how close the vote was.

 

[TacoXpo]

I'm a proud Catholic, converted when I was 25. I know my creator, and I don't believe in him because its convenient or because I'm uneducated (I double majored in Finance and Accounting). There is no unequivocal scientific proof that our earth wasn't divinely created, and I believe that for everything to be so perfectly formed that it didn't occur by happenstance. I don't look down on people who don't believe, my faith gives me joy. I understand that there are a lot of imperfect Christians, we are all fallible. The fact is we were founded on Judaeo Christian beliefs and I find it ironic @Oswego that your signature says "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts" and you accept the revisionist history being dished out these days.

It was a law common among Indians that the stronger of two tribes or people (nations) has the right to conquer and subdue the weaker. Under Indian common law it was understood that land claims existed by inhabiting the land and by any use of the land. When any land was unoccupied or not used for one year, the land was free for anyone to claim and settle. Native Americans were not helpless either, they attacked settlers, murdering and killing woman and children. And if you read more into the inception of our nation you would know that, just like today, people were divided on the "Indian" issue. Some supported their claim and some thought they were savages. Look into president Andrew Jackson's Indian Removal Act and how close the vote was.

Hear! Hear!

 

[TacoXpo]

I'm a proud Catholic, converted when I was 25. I know my creator, and I don't believe in him because its convenient or because I'm uneducated (I double majored in Finance and Accounting). There is no unequivocal scientific proof that our earth wasn't divinely created, and I believe that for everything to be so perfectly formed that it didn't occur by happenstance. I don't look down on people who don't believe, my faith gives me joy. I understand that there are a lot of imperfect Christians, we are all fallible. The fact is we were founded on Judaeo Christian beliefs and I find it ironic @Oswego that your signature says "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts" and you accept the revisionist history being dished out these days.

It was a law common among Indians that the stronger of two tribes or people (nations) has the right to conquer and subdue the weaker. Under Indian common law it was understood that land claims existed by inhabiting the land and by any use of the land. When any land was unoccupied or not used for one year, the land was free for anyone to claim and settle. Native Americans were not helpless either, they attacked settlers, murdering and killing woman and children. And if you read more into the inception of our nation you would know that, just like today, people were divided on the "Indian" issue. Some supported their claim and some thought they were savages. Look into president Andrew Jackson's Indian Removal Act and how close the vote was.

Hear! Hear!

 

[Silverback]

I'm not saying I don't believe in a higher power... I'm saying religions for the most part suck. I was raised Catholic, sent my kids to Catholic school, the whole 9 yards. I've just seen too much hypocrisy in the church which is the main reason I've fallen away from it. I'm sure there is something bigger than us and I'm sure he/she/it is watching. But I just don't believe its really a kind and loving God, if it he has a strange way of showing it.

 

[Mauzer]

I understand and I'm not going to get into apologetics. I will say that you shouldn't base your faith on the actions of other people, none of us are perfect.