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MatthewMay1

amateur professional
I don't really have a use for 6.5 Creedmoor. I have my .257 Wby for deer and my 6.8 AR for hogs. But I want one.
I was trying to decide between 6.5 and 6.8 for my next one. Pretty much decided on 6.5
Over 20% of the nations jobs revolve around agriculture, everyone has to eat, cotton, transportation, ethanol and natural resources.

It's sad the US is allowing the Chinese to buy up the brewery's, commercial nut, beef and pig farms
There are tons of Ag jobs out there, but I'm going to be a pilot so it's not very similar. Doesn't matter though, all I have to do is be able to check the 4 year degree box and I'm good.
 

Anathollo

Armorall is my choice of lube
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I was trying to decide between 6.5 and 6.8 for my next one. Pretty much decided on 6.5
Good choice. 6.8 is just a specialized .270 cartridge.

"The 6.8 Remington SPC is based on a .30 Remington cartridge case, but fires, you guessed it, a 7.035 mm projectile. If you don’t recognize 7.035 caliber, that’s just the metric measurement of the popular .270 which is actually .277 inches diameter. See, there's that goofy tendency to name cartridges something different from their actual diameter again. Just like a .38 Special being .357 caliber.

In simple terms, think of the 6.8 Remington SPC as a .270 Winchester with a smaller cartridge case and less powder capacity that can be fired in an AR type rifle with correct barrel and bolt."

But they are coming out with a .224 Valkyrie cartridge now that is supposed to have amazing ballistics out to 1200 yards and less recoil than 6.5 Grendel.
 

MatthewMay1

amateur professional
Good choice. 6.8 is just a specialized .270 cartridge.

"The 6.8 Remington SPC is based on a .30 Remington cartridge case, but fires, you guessed it, a 7.035 mm projectile. If you don’t recognize 7.035 caliber, that’s just the metric measurement of the popular .270 which is actually .277 inches diameter. See, there's that goofy tendency to name cartridges something different from their actual diameter again. Just like a .38 Special being .357 caliber.

In simple terms, think of the 6.8 Remington SPC as a .270 Winchester with a smaller cartridge case and less powder capacity that can be fired in an AR type rifle with correct barrel and bolt."

But they are coming out with a .224 Valkyrie cartridge now that is supposed to have amazing ballistics out to 1200 yards and less recoil than 6.5 Grendel.
Interesting. Not sure how I feel about a .224. Wouldn't it be basically a .223 but a little bit bigger going faster to hit 1200 yards?
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
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Interesting. Not sure how I feel about a .224. Wouldn't it be basically a .223 but a little bit bigger going faster to hit 1200 yards?

The 224 Valkyrie is supposed to be a better/ more efficient design in the cartridge. I have a buddy who is real deep in the long distance stuff with some well known guys in Florida and they are all watching this round. He even told me to hold off on an AR platform 6.x build until this one comes out just to make sure I build the right rifle.

The AR-15's Creedmoor? .224 Valkyrie vs. .22 Nosler and 6.5 Grendel (Modern Intermediate Calibers 025) - The Firearm Blog

For precision rifle work I still prefer my 300 Win Mag because there is no such thing as over kill except when shooting paper. I have debated doing a 6.5 build in a bolt setup though for a cheaper shooting paper punch sometime in the near future.
 
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MatthewMay1

amateur professional
The 224 Valkyrie is supposed to be a better/ more efficient design in the cartridge. I have a buddy who is real deep in the long distance stuff with some well known guys in Florida and they are all watching this round. He even told me to hold off on an AR platform 6.x build until this one comes out just to make sure I build the right rifle.

The AR-15's Creedmoor? .224 Valkyrie vs. .22 Nosler and 6.5 Grendel (Modern Intermediate Calibers 025) - The Firearm Blog

For precision rifle work I still prefer my 300 Win Mag because there is no such thing as over kill except when shooting paper. I have debated doing a 6.5 build in a bolt setup though for a cheaper shooting paper punch sometime in the near future.
I want to try my .300 weatherby on some long range shooting. Gonna have to wait until after deer season though
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
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The 30 cal belted magnums do a good job at long range shooting. The 6.x cartridges have earned a strong following in tactical matches for being accurate at long ranges, light recoil, and being able to keep the scope on target for shooter observation though. In the end they will both put down Texas game animals; but if you are going to the mountains the 30 cals become popular for big game.
 

Anathollo

Armorall is my choice of lube
Staff member
The 224 Valkyrie is supposed to be a better/ more efficient design in the cartridge. I have a buddy who is real deep in the long distance stuff with some well known guys in Florida and they are all watching this round. He even told me to hold off on an AR platform 6.x build until this one comes out just to make sure I build the right rifle.

The AR-15's Creedmoor? .224 Valkyrie vs. .22 Nosler and 6.5 Grendel (Modern Intermediate Calibers 025) - The Firearm Blog

For precision rifle work I still prefer my 300 Win Mag because there is no such thing as over kill except when shooting paper. I have debated doing a 6.5 build in a bolt setup though for a cheaper shooting paper punch sometime in the near future.
Yep a lot of people are waiting on this round to see what it can do. Only issue right now is buying ammo for a decent price.
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
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Yep a lot of people are waiting on this round to see what it can do. Only issue right now is buying ammo for a decent price.

Which reminds me I need to take some time this winter and get my Dillon setup to start cranking out pistol and carbine ammo. I have a few die plate sets now that I can set for dedicated use. Maybe even end up doing a TOR ammo day. lol
 

MatthewMay1

amateur professional
I was trying to decide between 6.5 and 6.8 for my next one. Pretty much decided on 6.5

There are tons of Ag jobs out there, but I'm going to be a pilot so it's not very similar. Doesn't matter though, all I have to do is be able to check the 4 year degree box and I'm good.
Good choice. 6.8 is just a specialized .270 cartridge.

"The 6.8 Remington SPC is based on a .30 Remington cartridge case, but fires, you guessed it, a 7.035 mm projectile. If you don’t recognize 7.035 caliber, that’s just the metric measurement of the popular .270 which is actually .277 inches diameter. See, there's that goofy tendency to name cartridges something different from their actual diameter again. Just like a .38 Special being .357 caliber.

In simple terms, think of the 6.8 Remington SPC as a .270 Winchester with a smaller cartridge case and less powder capacity that can be fired in an AR type rifle with correct barrel and bolt."

But they are coming out with a .224 Valkyrie cartridge now that is supposed to have amazing ballistics out to 1200 yards and less recoil than 6.5 Grendel.

Wait a second. I mistyped....I’m leaning to 6.8 creedmore for my hog destroyer gun
 

tex

That's Mr Asshole to you
12 gauge slug gun is great at putting down hogs. 1oz of lead will fuck them up. Cheap enough to bang around in the woods and proven performance.
 

Taco Loco

Tired and Lazy, married to ‘The Laundry Fairy’
I just shootem through ribs, with AR slingshot
223 Hornady Rem 55 gr V-MAX

And let them run off to neighbors propert/ranch!!
 

MatthewMay1

amateur professional
Guess we hunt in different cover. Not many 300 yard opportunity at the places I hunt.
I can see every bit of 800 yards from one of my deer stands. Could see even more if I remove a couple trees. Don't have enough practice at that range to shoot an animal yet, but I plan to work on that after deer season
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
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For hunting at that range I would be more comfortable with a 30 cal magnum. They have enough energy to do the job that far out - and further really.
 

tex

That's Mr Asshole to you
For hunting at that range I would be more comfortable with a 30 cal magnum. They have enough energy to do the job that far out - and further really.
This. I still wish I kept the 300 Remington Ultra Mag I bought 15 years ago for an Alaska trip that fell tbrough. More power at 300 yards than a 300 weatberby at 200 yards.
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
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A few years ago there was a movement back towards lighter 30 cal bullets in the magnums to get more fps for a flatter shooting load on deer sized game and smaller. I saw some pics where a guy was hunting pigs with a 168 grain Hornady Amax at 3,300 fps (if I am remembering right) and it was devastating on the pig. He started calling them his anti-armor rounds because of how badly they tore up pigs.
 
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