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That sucks about American companies... hope they have good insurance.

On another note.. thank goodness she wasn't black. Terrible story.
‘Horrible accident’: Woman fatally shot by Florida cop role-playing as ‘bad guy’ during citizen police academy

Mary Knowlton arrived at the Punta Gorda, Fla., police station Tuesday night to learn how to be a community steward.

The 73-year-old was there as a student in the citizen police academy, a two-hour course intended to give an intimate look at what makes the department in the quaint Florida town work. On this night, the group of 35 would tour the station and talk with officers, an essential part of academy curriculum that has gained popularity cross-country amid a heated national debate about police violence.

When it came time to get involved, Knowlton volunteered.

The hosting officers chose two students to role-play in a lethal force simulation, a scenario intended to demonstrate how and when officers decide to pull the trigger. Knowlton played the victim, Charlotte Sun photographer Sue Paquin told the newspaper, and a Punta Gorda police officer played a “bad guy.” These scenarios are usually safe, acted out with either fake or empty weapons.

But when the officer’s gun was fired, Knowlton — a mother, wife and career librarian — was hit with live ammunition.

She was rushed to a local hospital and pronounced dead.

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Florida police say a Punta Gorda officer accidentally shot and killed a woman during a citizens academy role-playing exercise August 9. (AP)
The tragedy has rocked the historic waterfront town on Florida’s west coast, home to 17,500 people and a popular destination for retirees. In a live press conference Tuesday night, Punta Gorda Police Chief Tom Lewis called the shooting a “horrible accident,” and said that everyone involved in the incident is in a “state of overwhelming shock and grief.”

“Our entire police department and all of our city leaders are absolutely devastated for everyone involved in this unimaginable event,” Lewis said. “I am asking that if you pray, you pray for Mary’s husband and family and for all of the officers and witnesses involved in this incident.”

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Punta Gorda Police Chief Tom Lewis held a press conference late on August 9 after 73-year-old Mary Knowlton was accidentally shot and killed during a simulation at a citizen police academy, calling it an "unimaginable event." (Punta Gorda Police Department via Storyful)
Knowlton’s Facebook page says she worked at the public library in Scott County, Minn., where she is from. In recent years, she and her husband moved south to Punta Gorda, where she continued her librarian work and served on the Friends of the Punta Gorda Library board of directors.

73yo Mary Knowlton was accidentally shot and killed by PGPD officer during citizen police academy, police say pic.twitter.com/xRmTnwniJ1

— Corey Lazar (@CoreyLazarWINK) August 10, 2016



Authorities have not yet released where Knowlton was shot, why there was live ammunition in the officer’s gun or explained how exactly the tragedy unfolded. The officer, whose name has not been released, was placed on administrative leave, police said. The chief asked the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to conduct an independent investigation.

Photos posted online late Tuesday night showed the Punta Gorda police station surrounded by yellow tape and illuminated by red and blue lights. Inside, FDLE officers questioned citizen academy students and other witnesses to the shooting, reported WINK News.

Punta Gorda Police say 35 were participating in the Citizens Academy were woman was shot.pic.twitter.com/TQqXGg8w28

— Carlos Munoz (@ReadCarlos) August 10, 2016



The citizen police academy was organized by the Chamber of Commerce, police said, but the program mirrors the one presented as part of the city’s Citizen Academy, a free, eight-week class intended to give an “up-close and personal look” at Punta Gorda government, according to the city website. That program includes class work, on-site visits and facility tours and is meant to “develop future leaders through well informed and civically engaged residents,” according to the website.

“The Academy is designed to give citizens an up-close and personal look at how City government functions and helps shape our community,” the website says.


Photos on the Punta Gorda Police Department Facebook page posted in March show Citizen Academy participants engaged in simulations similar to the one that police described was taking place Tuesday night. Civilians are taught how to aim and holster what appears to be a fake gun or stun gun. They climb in and out of police cruisers and ride atop official department Segways.

In a series of photos, two people dressed in black protective gear and helmets appear to be simulating a physical fight. Another participant approaches the scene, gun in hand, to mitigate the situation. Here, the gun does not appear to be real. Nobody is shot.


Citizen police academies have proven to be a successful tool for law enforcement agencies hoping to improve relations between officers and the community. The first known citizen’s academy held in the U.S. was established in Orlando in 1985, according to areport from the Criminal Justice Institute. In 2000, the U.S. Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that 15 percent of police departments surveyed conducted citizen police academies at the time. Seven years later, that number had not changed.

Last year, the International Association for Chiefs of Police listed citizen police academies as an integral way to improve community relations, and establishing these courses was also named as an action item in the final report from the President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing.

There is even a National Citizens Police Academy Association, which explains the importance of the courses on its website.

“The Citizens and Police Officers meet each other face to face in a neutral, friendly setting and each becomes a person to the other,” according to the website. “In the past, citizens have simply seen a uniform, now they have an understanding about the person behind the badge.”

And like the one in Punta Gorda, Fla., many citizen police academies across the country teach a curriculum that includes addressing use of lethal force by police.

As citizens heard of the fatal shooting Tuesday night, they took to the comment sections of news articles online, expressing grief — and shock.

“So sad.”

“So horrible.”

“How the hell did this happen?”
 

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Meanwhile back in Chicago it was business as usual. Man their gun control laws are fucking spectacular!! That place is a model for Democratically ran cities to follow! Just outstanding!

Monday was Chicago’s worst day in more than a decade for homicides, with 9 people fatally shot

Michael Lucas, 61, was sitting on his front stoop in Chicago’s Burnside neighborhood, watching his 3-year-old grandnephew play in the afternoon sun, when without warning two men ran toward the house and opened fire on him.

61-y-o Michael Lucas was on his Chatham porch watching child play when he was fatally shot.61-year-old Michael Lucas fatally shot while sitting on his front porch in Chatham pic.twitter.com/9yZMcXXa54

— Chicago Homicide (@ChicagoHomicide) August 9, 2016



One shot struck Lucas. As the men advanced up the sidewalk, they pushed Lucas’s grandnephew out of the way and shot Lucas three more times, family members said. The attackers fled in a red SUV, and Lucas died on the stoop from gunshot wounds to the neck and head.

Lucas was one of 19 people shot on Monday — nine of them fatally — in what the Chicago Tribune has called the city’s deadliest day in more than a decade.

Chicago has experienced a surge in violence in the past year, much of it concentrated on the city’s South Side, where Lucas lived. A staggering 2,500 people have been shot in the city since the beginning of the year, more than in any year at this point since the 1990s. There have been at least 426 homicides in 2016, far more than in New York, which has three times Chicago’s population.

Monday marked the most homicides Chicago has seen in a single day since July 5, 2003, when 10 people were killed, according to the Tribune.

The Chicago Police Department hasn’t offered an official response to the day’s violence. A spokesman for the department didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment Tuesday night.

Lucas, a father of three and grandfather of seven, was shot at about 1:20 p.m., according to police, who said he didn’t appear to be the intended target. His family members described him as a jack of all trades and a handyman who played blues guitar and liked to drink beer on his front porch.

“Pops wasn’t a bad person,” Lucas’s son Carl told WGN. “He never did nothing to nobody.”

Lucas’s grandnephew wasn’t harmed in the shooting, relatives said.

Across town in Chicago’s Lawndale neighborhood, a 10-year-old boy wasn’t as lucky. Fifth-grader Tavon Tanner was playing with his twin sister on the front porch of their home around 10 p.m. when someone on the street fired nine shots, with at least one round striking the boy in the back, the Tribune reported.

Mother of 10 y/o Tavon Tanner, shot while playing outside: "He's still in critical. He has a breathing tube." pic.twitter.com/6U1sAyET0l

— Suzanne Le Mignot (@SuzanneLeMignot) August 9, 2016



Tanner’s mother, Mellanie Washington, said the boy staggered through the front door, gasping for air and yelling, “I can’t breathe.” His sister held his hand and told him, “Twin don’t leave me” over and over, according to Washington.

Tanner was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital, where doctors removed his spleen and operated on his kidneys and other organs, leaving a bullet inside, Washington said. He remained in critical condition as of Tuesday afternoon, the Tribune reported.

Earlier in the evening in the same part of the city two other people were shot and killed.

Irell Mitchell, 22, was playing basketball in a park in North Lawndale when someone shot at him from a passing car, DNAinfo reported. He died in the hospital from gunshot wounds to the arm and back, police said.

Mitchell’s godfather, Ken Owens, said he had moved out of the neighborhood, but often came back to shoot hoops with his friends.

“I know every time this happens, everyone starts saying ‘Oh, he was a good kid,’ ” Owens said. “But in this case it’s true — he really was a good kid.”

Less than two hours earlier and one mile away, John Hosey Jr., 28, was shot while he was driving, the Chicago Sun Times reported. Police said he was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Other parts of the city weren’t spared the violence either. On Chicago’s Far South Side, a drive-by shooting left one man dead and two others critically injured. Police said Anthony Hatchett, 44, was standing on the sidewalk when someone opened fire out of the window of a passing blue van. Hatchett died in the hospital from a gunshot wound to the head. A 28-year-old and a 30-year-old were struck as well and taken to the hospital, where they were listed in critical condition.

And in West Town, near Chicago’s North Side, a 25-year-old father died after being shot in his car. William Villa was in his SUV stopped at a red light when another vehicle pulled up next to him and someone inside shot him in his head, killing him, according to police, who said Villa was a known gang member.

Law enforcement agencies in metropolitan areas around the country say they’ve seen upticks in homicides and other violent crimes over this point last year. More than two-dozen police departments in large U.S. cities reported that as of June 2016 homicides were up over the first half of last year — in some cases by dozens, according to a Washington Post analysis of law enforcement data.

Orlando led the pack, with a 712 percent increase over last year — a figure driven up dramatically by the Pulse nightclub mass shooting that claimed the lives of 49 clubgoers in June.

Chicago, however, saw the biggest increase in the raw number of homicides. In the first half of 2016, the city counted 316 killings, up from 211 at the same time last year. At this rate, the city could pass 600 homicides by the end of the year, more than any year since 2003, The Post reported.



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News of Monday’s violence fell hard on Rev. Tim Williams, who said he knew Irell Mitchell and Tavon Tanner, two of the victims from the West Side shootings.

Williams told the Tribune that he was a mentor to Mitchell through church and had gone to visit his family in the hospital. He said he returned home to see Tanner, who lives next door to him, playing outside, kicking a gate in front of his house. Moments later, bullets hit Tanner in the back.

Williams said his mother had just come inside from choir rehearsal when the shots rang out.

“I walked her to the bedroom and then pa-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta,” Williams told the Tribune. “That could have been my momma.”
 

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That sucks about American companies... hope they have good insurance.

On another note.. thank goodness she wasn't black. Terrible story.
‘Horrible accident’: Woman fatally shot by Florida cop role-playing as ‘bad guy’ during citizen police academy

Who the hell uses live ammo in citizen training exercises? F'ing morons.


Meanwhile back in Chicago it was business as usual. Man their gun control laws are fucking spectacular!! That place is a model for Democratically ran cities to follow! Just outstanding!

Monday was Chicago’s worst day in more than a decade for homicides, with 9 people fatally shot

I forget if I was talking about this website here or if it was me and a buddy on Fakebook so here it is. The most blunt Chicago shooting statistics site I have found: HeyJackass!
 

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The comments of the gubment don't make any sense. Basically they are fucking thugs.
 

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The comments of the gubment don't make any sense. Basically they are fucking thugs.

Correct. Bunch of commie idiots. The plant is located their due to the quality of sand/mica that can be mined there. Of course they export more than they import - that's their business. Mine sand - turn it into glass - sell it internationally.

Best part is you can't "shut down" a glass float plant. They need to run 24/7/365 until they need to be serviced (approx once every 30+ years).

We get most of our glass from Carlisle, PA through PPG so no worries for us, but pricing as a whole will go up if these morons blow up the plant or screw up international production backlogs.
 

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Why can't you shut it down? I guess then everything inside it turns to glass and its all ruined?
 

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Why can't you shut it down? I guess then everything inside it turns to glass and its all ruined?

that and ... $$$

It's not efficient to turn them off and on due to what they are (HUGE blast furnaces of molten sand/metal).

Here is the actual process. Guy in the video says ten years LOL... they go about 25-30 typically.
 

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer lady. :applaudit:
Nancy Pelosi, House Democrats leader, says she’s been flooded with ‘obscene’ calls since DCCC hack

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Saturday that she’s been slammed with “obscene and sick calls” after a hacker posted Democratic congressional lawmakers’ personal contact information online.

The information was apparently stolen in a hack of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which has personal contact and other information for all of the Democrats in the House, as well as their top aides.

“On a personal note, I was in the air flying from Florida to California when the news broke. Upon landing, I have received scores of mostly obscene and sick calls, voicemails and text messages,” Mrs. Pelosi said in a letter to colleagues, telling them to prevent their family and children from getting to the messages, presumably because they were so upsetting.


She said she was changing her phone number and urged other House Democrats to do the same.

And she said the hack, which she signaled is likely attributable to Russia, is being investigated. The Capitol Police and the House Sergeant-at-Arms are looking at what vulnerabilities there may be from the hack.

A hacker known as Guccifer 2.0 claimed responsibility for the hack and uploaded the contact information online.

The information chiefly involved Democratic lawmakers, though House officials said some Republicans were mixed in. Some lawmakers’ home addresses and spouses’ names were also posted in the hack.
 

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Totally agree!
 

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Such a slippery slope when it comes to constitutional rights. I can only hope she was still in shock from losing a loved one when she said that, because if she wasn't there's one more potential domestic terrorist to add to the list.
 

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Thought this just looked awkward.

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she felt a heart beat and was like ... WTF!?!
 

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Not while Bill is around I told you!!
 
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