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Oswego

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It's not. Go single payer and gut the corporations from holding Americans health hostage. Save me some dam tax money while propelling America into the future.

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Oswego

n00b
The answer is someplace in the middle and away from Washington beauracrats.

100% called it IMO.

Time for term limits IMO. Tired of 80yo white male career politicians getting lifetime like appointments to congress and house or reps through redistricting. Time for some diversity and then maybe we can all stop drawing lines in the sand and start compromising to get shit done.

Also not a big fan of a 2 party system. Pretty sure 2 parties can't properly represent everyone in our country.
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
Staff member
I respect John McCaine for his time in the service and time as a POW; but he needs to get out of politics. He has become the problem. There are not enough people in Washington in business other than the business of making a personal fortune.
 

Oswego

n00b
I respect John McCaine for his time in the service and time as a POW; but he needs to get out of politics. He has become the problem. There are not enough people in Washington in business other than the business of making a personal fortune.

When someone pays 2 million to "run" for a job that pays 200k a year RED flags should go off everywhere. No one in their right mind would do that unless they planned on stealing ti all back via power/money.
 

Mauzer

Pitter Patter. Lets Get at Er
It's not. Go single payer and gut the corporations from holding Americans health hostage. Save me some dam tax money while propelling America into the future.

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I don't think you thought that statement through. Single payer would put the GOVERNMENT in control of health care, which in turn would RAISE TAXES, and all those fun little cures and the tons of research that goes into finding them would STOP. Those "corporations" are the ones funding research that lead to innovations in the medical field. The only reason medical costs have been on the rise is because it has become a market without substance due to government regulation.
 

Silverback

Lima Gulf Bravo Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
New Air Force One is pretty bad ass! :)


Limo is a little over the top though. Trump digs it I guess. lol

 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
I'm okay with single payer as long as it is like other countries - you can go get stitches, a band-aid and aspirin. Then if you want to get real healthcare you go to some industrialized nation that has a free market and you pay for when you get it.
 

Oswego

n00b
I don't think you thought that statement through. Single payer would put the GOVERNMENT in control of health care, which in turn would RAISE TAXES, and all those fun little cures and the tons of research that goes into finding them would STOP. Those "corporations" are the ones funding research that lead to innovations in the medical field. The only reason medical costs have been on the rise is because it has become a market without substance due to government regulation.

Not even going to try to debate it. We can agree to disagree.

I am not nor will I ever take a pro capitalistic stance with regards to people's health/wellness/death. To me it's a right.

I'm okay with single payer as long as it is like other countries - you can go get stitches, a band-aid and aspirin. Then if you want to get real healthcare you go to some industrialized nation that has a free market and you pay for when you get it.

Don't worry - I'll still vote conservative because I care what my tax dollars are spent on.
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
Not even going to try to debate it. We can agree to disagree.

I am not nor will I ever take a pro capitalistic stance with regards to people's health/wellness/death. To me it's a right.



Don't worry - I'll still vote conservative because I care what my tax dollars are spent on.
Someday having glass in structures will be a right. ;)
 

Oswego

n00b
Someday having glass in structures will be a right. ;)

should be now if you listen to our lobbyists. Increase in health benefits is hugely. LEED even offers points for natural day-lighting.
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
And really the question of healthcare supplied by the man is what is 'free', who gets to pay for it and what is mandated - I really don't think anyone needs to pay for an Add-A-Dick-To-Me other than the person that can get a good grip on reality.
 

tx_shooter

It is not a war crime the first time.
Staff member
And really the question of healthcare supplied by the man is what is 'free', who gets to pay for it and what is mandated - I really don't think anyone needs to pay for an Add-A-Dick-To-Me other than the person that can get a good grip on reality.

I do not have a problem with basic healthcare for diseases and emergencies/ accidents. I do not believe tax payer money should fund boob jobs (excluding breast cancer related repairs), sex changes, or any other elective surgery that has become so common in our society now days. If a person wants an elective surgery they should have to pay for it out of their own private health insurance or pocket. If they want better care than provided by the government system they can purchase their own private health insurance.


Pretty much the way the VA is supposed to work right now - except with less killing the patients.
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER
I do not have a problem with basic healthcare for diseases and emergencies/ accidents. I do not believe tax payer money should fund boob jobs (excluding breast cancer related repairs), sex changes, or any other elective surgery that has become so common in our society now days. If a person wants an elective surgery they should have to pay for it out of their own private health insurance or pocket. If they want better care than provided by the government system they can purchase their own private health insurance.


Pretty much the way the VA is supposed to work right now - except with less killing the patients.
The real problem is that Government fucks up nearly everything they touch. I don't see how they wont fuck up 'healthcare.' They certainly won't make it 'affordable.'
 

TacoXpo

HOAX DENIER

Oswego

n00b
The real problem is that Government fucks up nearly everything they touch. I don't see how they wont fuck up 'healthcare.' They certainly won't make it 'affordable.'

While I agree, I do think it can be fixed and the gubment can handle things without screwing them up. Just need to change from lifetime bureaucrats to term limited good/honest people. Sadly I think we are going the wrong direction so.....


I'd be a bad business man I guess. Never ask anyone for anything especially handouts.
 
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